Would someone in the HR inner circle be willing to engage in an honest conversation as Jenny and I attempted a few weeks ago.
Would HR be willing to donate $3.00 from every DVD sold and 10% of the ticket receipts from Forever Strong to a scholarship fund in New Zealand, that went to help young Maori students? Consider this a form of payback or an expression of gratitude without having to reveal all of the unpleasant details. A win win for all. What say ye HR?? We can discuss the details privately.
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Ok, Ra, I'll be the person. But let's meet at Olympus High School for an open forum. What say you?
That will be fine. Now tell us who you are and your connection to HR.
Thanks.
Let me know a couple of dates and I will see if Carol Lear will attend. Can you see if Paul Hansen, Martin Bates, the Principal of Cottonwood High 2004 and the USC Sports Academy would be willing to attend. I think this is a great idea.
Anon, Are you open to discussing the scholarship idea?
If you were to spend as much time on this hate blog on something meaningful such as finding grants, scholarships and donations for your own people. That would be meaningful. Why are you depending and asking for the impossible from them? You do something about it.
Anon #2,
My people?... My people!? My people helped your people achieve what you have today. Without my people your people would be doing good things for young people in total anonymity, like the hundreds of other rugby clubs across America. Without my people their would be no movie, no DVD sales, no facebook site, no special firesides and no missionary strong site. The only thing unique about your efforts is that you used my people. Payback time for my people.
Anon #1,
I am going to be in Salt Lake next week on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.
Anon #2,
Check what your scriptures say about ingratitude.
Anon #2,
According to your people each of my people paid for their own air fair $1,500.00 and full tuition to attend high school for two months $8,000.00.
2009 ...6@$10,000.00 each =$60,000.00.
Add that to your peoples proforma.
Ra, your nemesis Coach G. is not making a dime from the movie or the DVD. For you to accuse him of "using" the Maori people for his own commercial purposes is perposterous. I would have been happy to have had a constructive dialogue with you but this is silly banter.
Ryan,
Those are your words not mine. I said there would be no movie without their contribution. Hard to stomach but its true. Remove all Maori references and what are you left with. I don't care if he makes money or not. I care that their seems to be a double standard between the application of "essence of a lie" and the "moral ethics" related to sending out Mormon missionaries and the invisible contribution of the Maori young men over 25 years.
Ryan,
You are the only one with any Kia Kaha.Anonymous #1 on this thread is not responding to my acceptance of the invitation for an open forum. Pulling my leg and playing games I guess. He got me, she got me they got me. I really thought someone was being sincere.
Ryan,
He is not my nemesis he's his own nemesis.
Ryan,
Someone's invested a lot of money to make the movie. They certainly expect a return on their investment or did they do this for charity?
Who said anything about invisible? if HR really wanted those boys and the Maori culture to be invisible, why would they adopt Maori traditions and honor the culture? Why would they perform the Haka? I'll bet that Coach G. would be more than happy to give an honest inquirer the names of each of the NZ boys who have played for the team over the years (you may be an honest inquirer but you can appreciate that your motives might be questioned...I am not a decision maker so this is just a guess). It seems to me you want to create a conspiracy when there is not one. None of those boys came unwillingly and none of them have been mistreated while they were here. Many return to visit old teammates and virtually all keep in touch with the friends they made while here. Unless you are saying these boys are unable to think for themselves I don't see your point.
Ra, I am sure the movie producers and those who invested in its production hope to make a profit but I do know Coach G. took much time away from his job to make sure the movie accurately honored the Maori culture and represented his team. For this he did not receive any compensation. In fact, I can imagine it was at some cost to him personally give the time he took away from his work. In addition, HR alumni, Maori alumni worked with producers to assure the Haka and the Maori culture were appropriately represented. I am sure there are some who don't like it, that is always the case. But I do not believe there has ever been anything but honor and respect for a beautiful culture and people.
Ryan, Sorry that you think this is just silly banter. This is much more than just trying to be witty or teasing. The crux of the matter is the 397 wins and the repeated failure to honestly acknowledge the invaluable contributions of the Maori boys for 30 years. Giving credit where credit is due. Ingratitude. A measure of gospel principles applied here but not over there. Doing ones alms in secret verses in public. This is not a game to me. I am very very serious!
Ryan,
Like you another warrior at heart...
Serious enough to stand out on the field and take all of the abuse and name calling, pathological liar, despicable human being, and on and on. Not cowering behind the wall of anonymity. This is not the way of a warrior who professes to follow Kia Kaha. You understand this and I appreciate you candor and have great respect for your opinion.
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